James Anderson
2025 · interview · Behind the Balance Sheet Podcast

The Innovation Fans (Behind the Balance Sheet #54)

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Anderson and Morgan Samet speak with Stephen Clapham at Italian Tech Week about Lingotto's Innovation Strategy, AI, China's role in portfolios, autonomous driving, SpaceX, and what it means to be a long-term investor in innovation.

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The Innovation Fans — JamesAnderson & Morgan Samet

JamesAnderson & Morgan Samet — Behind the Balance Sheet Podcast #54, December 2025

Context. Recorded live at Italian Tech Week, Anderson and his Lingotto partner Morgan Samet discuss AI infrastructure spending (with Anderson drawing parallels to the dot-com vendor-financing cycle of Lucent and Nortel), the autonomous vehicle opportunity (Samet, recently returned from China, identifies Pony AI and Waymo as leaders), China's battery and manufacturing dominance (CATL and BYD), and the multi-stage investment philosophy at Lingotto. Anderson expresses cautious concern about AI valuation jumps while Samet is more optimistic about the transformational potential.


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